Here I go again, creating enemies no doubt, and getting myself in trouble for speaking about what I think are hidden truths. I want to talk about the Warrior Forum Special Offers today. I will solely blame my rant and negative energy I am now putting out there on Ryan Lee’s post about WSO. Although Ryan did not have to convince me to agree with what he says, he did stir me up with one of my pet hates. Manipulation and bulls**t.
Yes we would all dearly love to keep our mouths shut but should we?
If you are disappointed with what I have to say in this article, please don’t take it to heart. Just because you are associated with a site does not mean you have to accept all of the criticism that comes their way.
Firstly you should read Ryan’s post, (link above) but if you are too lazy, I will summarize it in my own words. Warning: disclaimer “my own words”.
He basically says that some bad products are pushed through the WSO (Warrior Special Offer) forum are not fit for sale items and some do not work at all. He is NOT saying that all products on the forum are bad, but many are. I know this can be true for many sites that help people sell their products but it goes deeper than that.
Bad Business Practices Are Covered But Why?
I have my own experiences with the Warrior Forum Special Offers but I just wanted to make sure that I was not being paranoid. I set out to do some research that led me all over the internet. Unfortunately it took up more time than I would have liked but opened my eyes even further. I was shocked at how much information I could have gathered and how many famous people were just flat out accused of something shady.
Pierce Hired a Law Firm to Sue Folks Who Dared Criticize Him and His Wares
However, the ugly truth is Warrior Forum moderator Paul Myers deleted the important, helpful thread about Stephen Pierce in less than twenty minutes! The Warrior Forum does not want any threads that will expose internet marketing scam artists. Paul Myers has no interest in protecting innocent scam victims. His primary concern is to protect internet marketing scam artists and fraudsters for they provide the dirty money that keeps the Warrior Forum in business. Source: Warrior Forum Sucks
What about this one?
Warrior Forum member Ian Simpson wanted to show you how easy it is to turn $125 into $13,000 per month. Times are tough, who couldn’t use an extra thirteen grand a month? What a swell guy. But then people got stung… Quote from a fellow warrior: ‘A lot people paid him more money and got no results with it. One of the things was add backlinks. They were never done. I’m in contact with another couple of people on the thread and I’m sure they will back up what I say. I lost appox $300-$400 all in. I’m sure there are people that lost more, even thousands.” Source = The Warrior Forum Sucks
Joe Robinson’s Warrior Forum Apology Deleted Within Minutes
Joe Robinson, aka Joseph Robinson, of the Warrior Forum “content syndication” clique had a change of heart. He recognised towards the end of 2012 that the whole article syndication scam on the Warrior Forum was just that…a scam. Robinson was an integral part of it by posting supportive comments to the so called “article syndicators” like Alexa Smith (Timothy Nagley), Paul Uhl (myob aka the $500,000,000 per annum affiliate marketer (lol)), Annie Pot, Bill Platt and others. Robinson gave an interview to Jack Wadd of theantiwarrior.com confirming that he knew of nobody who was successful on the Warrior Forum with this much pimped “business model”. Source: Alexa Smith Warrior Forum Scam
Why Kevin Muldoon Deleted His Warrior Forum Account
A few Warrior Forum members contacted me about the seller. It turns out that after he stole money from me he added a fake testimonial from me. I warned them not to do business with them and they were appreciative of me saving them from losing cash. The seller makes money by sending messages to other members on the forum every day saying he has an email list and can sell traffic. He’s an active member on the site, which is what dupes many people into buying from him. I made a thread warning others not to do business with the seller. You won’t be surprised to learn that Warrior Forum deleted my thread immediately. I spoke about the need for forum owners to protect members. Not only do the owners of Warrior Forum not protect their members, they seem to go to great lengths in order to allow scammers to operate there. As such, I requested my account to be deleted. source = Kevin Muldoon’s site
I can fully understand that a forum needs to moderate comments and I can see how they would not want to get involved with major law suits that are pending. BUT.. I think in some cases above, the moderation has gone beyond that.
I am not dumb enough to presume that the Warrior forum is involved in these shady business practices but they are definitely covering them up or not exposing them for some unknown reason.
Why am I Associating Myself With This Slander?
Why am I posting this on my website?
- Firstly is it slander? If it is then why haven’t they got sued for slander?
- Maybe you have not heard all this talk about the Warrior forum and it is only fair that you are fully aware.
- I am giving you some leads that take you to other interesting posts. Let us just say that the plot thickens.
- I will not join the conspiracy by keeping silent.
- I will not comment on others peoples situations so all I can do is quote their words.
But I can tell you that I personally have also had my comments deleted on the Warrior Forum…
Here’s my story.
I innocently purchased a product from a WSO and was not happy with my purchase. Let me tell you that I have purchased many WSO’s and have been happy with more than 50% of what I bought, but this time I had to say something.
I felt that the item I bought actually did nothing, gave no value at all and was being sold on the back of a well known Internet Marketer’s reputation.
What did I do?
I simply posted my honest opinion of the product saying that it was not good at all. I even stated that I had bought products from this “guru” before and all of his other products were great. My post was honest feedback from a genuine buyer. But to my surprise my post was deleted within the hour (looks like I am not the only one).
As soon as my honest buyers opinion got deleted, alarm bells were ringing madly for me. No I do not have screenshots! Why? Well I was gullible and presumed that this forum actually had the customer’s experience as a priority. Sadly I was wrong about that.
All I could do was sit back and watch people buy themselves silly as the product was from a well known name.
The actual feedback and comments on the thread were making me sick.
“Awesome product. I knew I was on a winner when I…”
“So and so always produces an amazing product, you would have to be nuts to miss this opportunity.”
“You must jump on board with this system now before it is too late!”
And all I could think was…
Did anyone here actually buy this product? Is this all a scam? Why are all these people saying how wonderful the product is? How can they all be in on it?
This is not the only example I have as it has happened before but I was confused and I seriously started to question if I had actually even left a comment in the first place.
There are a few burning questions here:
1. Why does the Warrior forum allow inferior products to be sold on their site?
2. Why do they delete feedback comments that might be helpful to other potential buyers?
3. Why do they allow the same bad product offenders to continually sell more on the forum?
Will I Buy A Warrior Special Offer Again?
Yes I probably will. I am an online shopper and love purchasing stuff I do not need.
I have actually bought some pretty cool tools from the Warrior special Offers forum to help me build my business. Unfortunately the ones that did not work are just casualties that I have to live with.
If I buy from a WSO I will:
- From now on if I buy something I will consider it a risk I am taking.
- I definitely WILL NOT let the comments and feedback of people on the WSO”s influence my decision in any way.
- I will not think that the “lack of bad feedback” means the product is good. (obviously because they deleted my honest review)
I definitely think that the extreme censorship of comments that might help others decide if they should part with their hard earned cash or not is WRONG on so many levels.
What do you think?
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